So you guys don't want an agreement with Iran. Can you then lay out specifically what you want to be done instead?
Did anyone else catch Benjamin Netanyahu's speech?
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So you guys don't want an agreement with Iran. Can you then lay out specifically what you want to be done instead?
The iranian regime is not a threat to the Us or the American people. It's a threat to its won people. It's barely a threat to Israel. But above all, it's a threat to ISIS 'cause Iran is Shia-Islam while ISIS is Sunni-Islam, even anti-Shia.
The same way europe was plagued with wars of religion betwen catholicism an protestantism during the XVIth and XVIIth centuries, the Middle-East is currenttly plaged with conflicts between Shia and Sunni.
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Specifically I would like to see the embargo and sanctions strengthened so that there's actually some teeth to a threat. If we lift sanctions, they agree to halt their nuclear program. No sane person believes these assholes will do anything good with that technology.
Specifically I'd like to see Bibi snub president Stompy Foot as many times as possible. Dear Leader has formulated a shitty foreign policy towards our historically strongest ally due to his distaste for the Prime Minister. That is childish. So was his response to Netenyahu's speech. And his response to the invitation offered to him by congress. Congress can invite any person they desire to appear and have them speak about real problems with shitty foreign policy.
Specifically I'd like to see Boehner given a vote of no confidence and have the house elect someone who has a spine.
Specifically I'd like to see Bibi snub president Stompy Foot as many times as possible. Dear Leader has formulated a shitty foreign policy towards our historically strongest ally due to his distaste for the Prime Minister. That is childish. So was his response to Netenyahu's speech. And his response to the invitation offered to him by congress. Congress can invite any person they desire to appear and have them speak about real problems with shitty foreign policy.
Specifically I'd like to see Boehner given a vote of no confidence and have the house elect someone who has a spine.
Mayhem
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"Embargo" is a binary term. There either is one or there isn't one; you can't strengthen or weaken it. And what sanctions need to be made stronger, specifically? Where are we falling short on this?
Now wait a minute, these are exactly the negotiations you say you want eliminated. Which stance are you vehemently and antagonistically supporting or refuting? How about getting your story straight before launching one of your tirades.
He didn't snub the President. He complimented and thanked him profusely. You said you watched the speech. Which speech did you watch? The one he gave or the one you dreamed up?
This, coming from a guy who just makes shit up and then thinks the rest of us are stupid/gullible enough to fall for it. Everything you've posted here, from "he's just like Churchill" all the way through to this sewage rates right up there with MP's last idiotic post where he claimed Hillary ordered Waco set on fire. When are you going to understand how ludicrous you make yourself?
Again, in the speech that those of us in the real world watched, Netanyahu gave numerous examples of how Obama has supported Israel.
And so is your response to his response. So there. Tag, you're it.
Show me any evidence or indication that if he had attended, you and the rest of the knuckle-draggers wouldn't have wouldn't have found some puerile way to stick his nose in it. That's what you do. It's all you do. Your only response to anything Obama does is to pound sand and shout at the rain. And again, you're the only one who doesn't see how pathetic your routine has become.
You still haven't made one credible response as to what makes our foreign policy shitty. But if it's any consolation, the sand is nicely pounded and the rain has been put in its place.
He's the one that invited the guy that made the speech that got you all moistened up. So, at absolutely no risk of ever getting anything that can be described as a coherent answer; what crawled up your ass and died this time?
So you want to keep the status quo? Despite the fact that sanctions by both the Bush and Obama administrations hasn't stopped Iran from developing their nuclear program so far. Your solution is: Do nothing, and instead of just going ahead and developing nukes, Iran will see the light and completely reverse everything it’s been doing. That is absurd. Especially if you believe that Iran is not a rational actor yet if you walk away from the table they'll be rational enough to come to their senses and abandon their entire program? There are no good options at this point. Good options went out the door a long time ago. The proposed agreement leaves Iran with the capability to build nuclear weapons but increases their breakout time to 1 year and reinforces the tripwires that would alert the international community and allow a forceful response which at that point would have to be military action.
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Show me any evidence or indication that if he had attended, you and the rest of the knuckle-draggers wouldn't have wouldn't have found some puerile way to stick his nose in it. That's what you do. It's all you do. Your only response to anything Obama does is to pound sand and shout at the rain. And again, you're the only one who doesn't see how pathetic your routine has become.
Stompy Foot would have made it about himself, as he does at every opportunity.
You still haven't made one credible response as to what makes our foreign policy shitty. But if it's any consolation, the sand is nicely pounded and the rain has been put in its place.
Benghazi; Russia reset; Ukraine; Afghanistan; Iraq; Israel; Amnesty for Illegal Aliens; His failure to appear in France after the Charlie Hedbo attack; His desire to tax corporations are a separate issue but he's driving corporations to move their headquarters out of the country; even Time is calling him a foreign policy failure http://time.com/76868/obama-foreign-policy-cynicism/;
The WaPo is calling him delusional http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-last-obama-is-delusional-on-foreign-policy/; and last but certainly not least, Cuba. Everything Stompy Foot touches is a disaster.
Stompy Foot would have made it about himself, as he does at every opportunity.
You still haven't made one credible response as to what makes our foreign policy shitty. But if it's any consolation, the sand is nicely pounded and the rain has been put in its place.
Benghazi; Russia reset; Ukraine; Afghanistan; Iraq; Israel; Amnesty for Illegal Aliens; His failure to appear in France after the Charlie Hedbo attack; His desire to tax corporations are a separate issue but he's driving corporations to move their headquarters out of the country; even Time is calling him a foreign policy failure http://time.com/76868/obama-foreign-policy-cynicism/;
The WaPo is calling him delusional http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-last-obama-is-delusional-on-foreign-policy/; and last but certainly not least, Cuba. Everything Stompy Foot touches is a disaster.
Do you have any concrete solutions other name calling? It's awfully hard to have a discussion on here when you bring nothing to the table other than name calling and insults. Blue where are you? We need an adult here
Mayhem
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Thanx. You just confirmed the exact point I made about you. You're a whiny, petulant victim-child.
We (and when I say "We", I mean the rational people so, not you) are discussing Israel/Iran on this thread. And either way, you didn't answer the question, just like I knew you wouldn't. All you did is trot out a laundry list of things you insist on being your usual whiny, petulant, victimized little self about without giving any specifics whatsoever. And yet again, this is all you do.
I honestly have no idea what appeal the Politics section has for you. I truly do not believe you have any knowledge of the topics you post about, or care one bit about them. I think you only come here to get your panties in a knot because you enjoy the feel of well-knotted panties. You're a racist and a bigot and you are the very embodiment of the term "ignorant tool". You're not cute, you're not amusing and there isn't a molecule of charm within 100 miles of you. Everything you've posted on this thread (and I'm still trying to shake off the Churchill comparison) has been utterly beneath everyone who has been condemned to read it.
Please go the fuck away.
So the term "total embargo" is redundant?
Netanyahu, in his speech, points out this doesn't have to be a this deal or no deal proposition or a this deal or war. How about a better deal? Iran will be allowed to continue it's ballistic missile development. For what? Peaceful purposes? And their nuclear infrastructure will allowed to remain intact. And this deal expires in 10 years with no requirement that Iran has to change it's terror-sponsoring ways for it to be lifted?
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
Ace Boobtoucher
Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
“I thought it was pretty damn sad that the American people have to hear the truth from the Prime Minister of Israel.”
“The vituperative, vicious Democratic reaction to that speech, was because … Netanyahu told the truth and Obama has not.”
“Netanyahu’s speech was necessary, it was masterful, it was cogent, it was honest, it was inspiring. And the Democrats in response — including the President — acted like snitty, bitchy high school girls.”~Colonel Ralph Peters(ret)
You can't strengthen an embargo. An embargo is a complete ban on trade. You can't get any stronger than that. You can strengthen sanctions which are trade prohibitions on certain products.
On their nuclear infrastructure. Yes their nuclear infrastructure will remain intact but under the proposed agreement all of their enrichment complexes will be subject to rigorous inspections. The agreement would limit Iran to a break out time of one year and would drastically reduce their uranium capacity
Then how do you ease an embargo as opposed to outright lifting it?
You authorise some products to be traded. Food and medicines for example.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Showed up in Congress wailing & moaning, doin' the Gulit Trip Boogie, with his hands outstretched, right before the Treasury gets flooded with American taxpayer dollars, I see. That Nut & Yahoo... the boy ain't no dummy. I'll give him that much.
Rey C.
Racing is life... anything else is just waiting.
Oh, BTW... for anyone who wants to make like I'm perpetuating some sort of anti-Semitic stereotype^^^, it's not about that at all. This is what it's about. In a country that's up to its ears in debt, I am pissed that we borrow money so we can give it away. What sane person would do that? No one would! And no country should be doing it either!!! And so, I am most definitely going to call out the biggest beggar nation of them all. If ya don't like it, you'll get over it... or ya won't. I don't give a shit. But it is time to end this madness! Imagine giving someone even $121. Would you let them come into your house and talk shit? Hells no! And if you've gotten $121 billion... ol' Bibi or Bipsy or Booboo or whatever they call him, should have been outside shoveling snow off the White House lawn and not saying a damn thing except, "Thank you, America!" :bowdown:
The U.S doesn't have an embargo with IrAn Like they do with Cuba, they only have sanctions. The embargo with Cuba restricts essentially all trade and travel between the U.S and Cuba. With Iran, there's only an embargo on economic activities. It's really semantics though because no on really refers to the sanctions on Iran as an embargo
What if, 13 years ago, the Democrats had invited the french president ot give a speech in front of the Senate and say "Don't go to war in Iraq, don't listen to Georges W. Bush, listen to me because I know things better thn him" ?
Because this is exactly what happened with Netanyahu : Boenher invited Netanyahu t speak in front of the senate while he knew that Netanyahu would doesn't agree with Obama on the issue of Iran, he knew that Netanyahu would ask congress (and all US citizens) not to listen to the President but to listen to him, a foreign state leader.
Boehner organised an attempt from Netanyahu to take over US foreign policy rom the President of the United States.
Because this is exactly what happened with Netanyahu : Boenher invited Netanyahu t speak in front of the senate while he knew that Netanyahu would doesn't agree with Obama on the issue of Iran, he knew that Netanyahu would ask congress (and all US citizens) not to listen to the President but to listen to him, a foreign state leader.
Boehner organised an attempt from Netanyahu to take over US foreign policy rom the President of the United States.
And this is terrible for jews all around the world. 'cause anti-semites all around the world like to pretend the jews are the ones who run things, that most leaders of western wountries are puppets and that the jews are the ones who pull the strings. So, anti-semites are gonna use that speech as if it was a proof that the jews are the ones who pull the strings.
They will say : "See, Netanyahu is the ones who crafts US foreign policy, american politicians are slaves to him".
They will say : "See, Netanyahu is the ones who crafts US foreign policy, american politicians are slaves to him".
Yeah, sanction and embargo are used interchangeably but even the official embargo we've had on Cuba has been "strengthened" since it was first implemented, the Helms-Burton Act being one example.